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Post by mack11 on Jun 2, 2016 11:02:36 GMT -4
So will be putting the rifle down for most of the season and focusing on archery this year. I use mechanicals for deer but was wondering are fixed better for bear? I think the would be but I have never taken a bear. I read a lot on this and it seems its a toss up. What do you guys recommend?
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Post by tuketu on Jun 2, 2016 23:11:00 GMT -4
Hey mack11 !
Both will definitely do the job. I've used Spitfire mechanicals in the past on my 60# 2005 Hoyt Ultramag and had no problem recovering my bears. A few things I've noticed with mechanicals... 1... You want to buy a broadhead with a maximum cut. Bears are notorious for having fat plug the exit would causing you to lose your blood trail so the bigger the hole the better. 2... Mechanical blades are not built as strong as the fixed blades so I discard the blades once used and buy replacement blades. 3... With mechanicals I've also found that if the arrow is still in the bear the blades have a tendency to fold back up and stop cutting ,allowing the arrow to back out. With fixed blades the broadhead will continue to cut every time the bear walks or runs increasing hemorrhaging, and hopefully a shorter tracking job. I've had some friends use the Rage mechanicals and it's just sick the hole they make, a blind man could follow the blood trail.
I think a lot of the fixed broadheads fly pretty good these days. Just Google best broadheads for bears and I'm sure you'll end up with a dozen different choices. Just make sure the broadheads are razor sharp and are compatible with the spine of your arrows. Your archery shop should be able to offer some suggestions on what broadheads to match up to your bow and arrows. Some folks like the chisel tips to break thru bone while others prefer cut on contact ...like mine are. Both have their merits and cut on contacts with cut thru bear ribs with no problem. Just comes down to your personal preference.
Looking forward to seeing what you finally decide on. Good Luck
Here's my choice ... Magnus Stingers ... I stand corrected
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2016 15:26:17 GMT -4
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Post by mack11 on Jun 3, 2016 16:49:57 GMT -4
So once I pick a broad head, I'm thinking on fixed, tuning the broad heads to group like field points. What's the best method for this.
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Post by mack11 on Jun 3, 2016 17:35:49 GMT -4
Also wondering about head weights. I usually use a 100gr head with a light arrow for more speed. I know some guys like a heavier arrow and reduce speed but has more hitting power. Should I bump up to a 125gr for bear or the 100gr just as good? Only been bow hunting for 3 years so I'm new to it. Taking in all info possible from seasoned archers.
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Post by tuketu on Jun 4, 2016 7:10:30 GMT -4
Mack11 ,... hopefully you won't have to do much tuning, a lot of the new broadheads fly pretty darn close to your field points. There should be some good videos on You Tube to help you tune if you need to. The arrow charts will tell you which arrow spine to use based on your field point/broadhead weight, Draw length and Bow weight. 100 gr. are fine , if you go up to 125 gr. you may have to change arrows.
I'd be more concerned about the 70# draw weight on your bow! 60# is more than enough for any big game here ... DNR only requires 40# for deer and 50# draw weight for moose. Don't get hung up on a heavy draw weight.You want it to be smooth and comfortable to draw with minimal effort so as not to effect proper shooting form. Nothing worse than having a nice buck walk by when you've been sitting in the cold for a long time, then not being able to draw your bow because the cold has zapped out your energy to be able to draw without flailing your bow to get to full draw.!
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Post by mack11 on Jun 4, 2016 8:41:47 GMT -4
Thanks Tuk. Shooting #62 now due to rotator cuff injury last year hoping to work up a few more pounds before the season. I shoot a 400 spine now with 100gr field points. Had a couple packs of 100gr G5 Montecs in the drawer I will try also have been looking at the wasp heads not sure whi have yet but they have some nice looking heads. Thanks for the info,
Trevor.
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Post by tuketu on Jun 4, 2016 8:53:05 GMT -4
Rotator Cuff ... yeh that's definitely going to be an issue for you!
Just make sure your arrows are spined properly for the draw weight!
The Montecs should fly pretty good for you !
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2016 9:17:41 GMT -4
Mack11 ,... hopefully you won't have to do much tuning, a lot of the new broadheads fly pretty darn close to your field points. There should be some good videos on You Tube to help you tune if you need to. The arrow charts will tell you which arrow spine to use based on your field point/broadhead weight, Draw length and Bow weight. 100 gr. are fine , if you go up to 125 gr. you may have to change arrows.
I'd be more concerned about the 70# draw weight on your bow! 60# is more than enough for any big game here ... DNR only requires 40# for deer and 50# draw weight for moose. Don't get hung up on a heavy draw weight.You want it to be smooth and comfortable to draw with minimal effort so as not to effect proper shooting form. Nothing worse than having a nice buck walk by when you've been sitting in the cold for a long time, then not being able to draw your bow because the cold has zapped out your energy to be able to draw without flailing your bow to get to full draw.!
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d 1 I always enjoy picking away and my ol bud TUk.....but thats some solid advice there. My shoulder is messed up too...and getting worse....but my 46 lb bow is more than enough....any critter I've poked in the right spot dies as quick as if the arrow was launched out of a 70lb bow....if u can shoot heavy just as accurate and under all situations ...go for it....but its not a requirement. |
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Post by mack11 on Jun 4, 2016 11:57:02 GMT -4
I bought one of those bow trainer things 2 years ago to help increase draw weight good for days I don't get out shooting. Helped my shoulder a lot too took it to my physiotherapist and he was going to order some for his clients thought it was a great tool. Thanks for the input fellas appreciate it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2016 8:24:50 GMT -4
altho I was never a fan of the open on impact heads....as when I was guiding many years ago...I saw two complete and epic fails....but I honestly think the new one have all the problems sorted out....combined with modern compounds they are a deadly combination.
i can shoot my bow whenever i want where i live...so for me thats the best medicine for my shoulder...the only thing that gives me any satisfaction with my bad shoulder is I did it loading a legit 300 black bear in my truck by myself. I've missed two bear seasons in close to 30 years of chasing them....one was when about 10 years ago when I lost both of my best hunting partners very close together...it made it worse that besides hunting buds they were my father and brother.
So anyways....i was about to miss another season...but one day after my brothers funeral...I just picked up my bow and started to camp and a bear site I had baited all fall, but had not been there in a couple weeks....I knew the odds of any bears being still there was slim....but I just need a little tree stand therapy.
Luck or something was with me that evening and I poked a beautiful boar....it barely made it out of sight before expiring to the cedar arrow. I hit the barrel and looked on the trail for blood and saw him down for keeps. Anyways...I digress...but getting him in the pickup bed is when I tore my shoulder. I had a strap wrapped around my hand several times and also around the bear....just as i had him almost in...he slipped back off the tail gate...when he dropped...he took my arm with it lol....
I shoot as long as it doesnt bug me...when its acting up...I dont shoot.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2016 8:29:33 GMT -4
my shoulder hurts every time i look at this pic lol Attachments:
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Post by tuketu on Jun 7, 2016 21:18:40 GMT -4
I love this Quote from Skeeter !
Got me pegged to a tee.
"We're getting too old to cover up stupidity with effort."
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Post by skeeter on Jun 7, 2016 23:16:53 GMT -4
I love this Quote from Skeeter !
Got me pegged to a tee.
"We're getting too old to cover up stupidity with effort."
tuk
d 1 It's a skeeter original! But I'm currently rebuilding the deck and I added a 12x12 deck extension on to that.
mama wanted some other stuff done rather then bear barrels etc etc. women! you can't live with'em and you can't live with'em!
I am currently getting and drying donuts every day. 2 freezers full 3 more to go!
when I get these decks done it's back to bear stuff! The end of july just isn't getting here soon enough!
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Post by mack11 on Jun 8, 2016 19:43:21 GMT -4
Ordered a few packs of the wasp drone. Heard good things going to give them a try.
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