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Post by tuketu on May 13, 2022 12:35:55 GMT -4
Many of us that use bait barrels are always looking for, or trying to conjure up, new barrel set ups . Here's another one.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBgvK1L1e6w www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQUinhCzoeI
One problem I can foresee is these plastic barrels is that those plastic rings probably won't stand up to "bear and tear" (wear and tear by bears)
I find these to be far superior and have yet to have a cover pulled off. All I need is a socket wrench to extract the bolt'
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2022 8:48:33 GMT -4
Outstanding post, thank you! Been looking at poly barrels for to weight saving. Also learned that barrels are legal on public land in Minnesota! Best news. Now I just need to find a source for the barrels. I’m thinking about drilling a 4” hole towards the bottom of the barrel, thoughts on that?
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Post by tuketu on May 14, 2022 9:36:47 GMT -4
I guess the first question is what are you using for bait! The poly's certainly do have the advantage of weight and they are available in a screw top lid, which might be a better choice . All you would have to do is put some type of bracket on to keep the lid from being turned.
I've refined my holes to about 3" x 4" when using bulk bait like pastries/donuts type bait. For things like Corn, grain, popcorn and dog food a couple 2" holes is all I use. . I also have interchangeable templates with different sized holes so I can have options with a single barrel. Just unbolt template and replace with different one, depending on size hole I want or the type of bait I'm using... it gives me options with a single barrel. I'm sure you could do the same with a poly barrel.
I also use chain tethered to a tree with a couple swivel links so the chain doesn't get all bound up - it seems to work well
Necessity being the mother of invention I've also improvised and used what I had on hand. I was able to get my hands on a couple steel lids, and used them on a poly barrel. just by adding two chain loops on the lid, the big hole in top of barrel makes it so much easier to fill, and the lid for the most part repels the majority of rain. The chain thing may work well on a Poly screw top as well.
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Post by tuketu on May 14, 2022 10:08:41 GMT -4
If you have steel barrels with no removalbe lid - No problem.
Cut a hole in top of barrel , weld hinges to a piece of plate steel and size it to overlap hole size by couple inches, drill two holes on the edge opposite the hinges. Weld hinged lid in place. Drill down thru barrel using the holes in plate, pull bolts up thru barrel holes and weld in place. Use should be able to bring the lid down so bolts go thru lid holes. Then all you need is a couple big washers and wing nuts - works great! Always keep a couple wing nuts and washers in your bait bag. can't tell you how many times I'd dropped a rusty wing nut and spent 10 minutes looking for it on the ground.
tuk
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Post by nontypical on May 14, 2022 10:08:51 GMT -4
Outstanding post, thank you! Been looking at poly barrels for to weight saving. Also learned that barrels are legal on public land in Minnesota! Best news. Now I just need to find a source for the barrels. I’m thinking about drilling a 4” hole towards the bottom of the barrel, thoughts on that? I would suggest not putting your hole right at the bottom of the barrel. It limits the amount of bait you can put in at any one time. Halfway up and just big enough to allow a paw and leg in to get at some of the bait. I also mount a rod inside the barrel a couple inches below the hole to “disrupt” the paw as it’s being pulled out. That way the bear never gets a full mitt of food on every try.
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Post by nontypical on May 14, 2022 10:10:10 GMT -4
If you have steel barrels with no removalbe lid - No problem.
Cut a hole in top of barrel , weld hinges to a piece of plate steel and size it to overlap hole size by couple inches, drill two holes on the edge opposite the hinges. Weld hinged lid in place. Drill down thru barrel using the holes in plate, pull bolts up thru barrel holes and weld in place. Use should be able to bring the lid down so bolts go thru lid holes. Then all you need is a couple big washers and wing nuts - works great! Always keep a couple wing nuts and washers in your bait bag. can't tell you how many times I'd dropped a rusty wing nut and spent 10 minutes looking for it on the ground.
tuk You’re a rusty wing nut…😜🤣
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Post by nontypical on May 14, 2022 10:13:04 GMT -4
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Post by tuketu on May 14, 2022 10:27:00 GMT -4
When I started bear hunting there weren't a lot of others doing it, so a lot of it was trial and error and thinking on the fly.
I've come a long way Baby !
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Post by tuketu on May 14, 2022 10:52:06 GMT -4
Here's another offering from Nontypical!
This guy can't look at something without thinking bears ! Bait dispensers can come in any form , you just have to explore the possibilities. He just couldn't pass these up sitting roadside. I'm sure we'll see them in action come fall.
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Post by tuketu on May 14, 2022 11:10:38 GMT -4
Nontypical ...Let me throw this out at ya for conversations sake.
Do you think the large holes are a contributing factor to the damage incurred? I find all poly barrels are not alike. I have some black ones that are extremely robust , made of extra thick plastics. They may have contained polymers or solvents at one time but are easily cleanable for safe use.
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Post by nontypical on May 14, 2022 11:50:40 GMT -4
Good question. Not certain, but seems to me if they can get their mouth in the hole, they will chew it bigger eventually.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2022 17:47:25 GMT -4
Bait is mainly dried donuts and dog food. Grease pit around the barrel. Being able to take the barrels in the backcountry in Wyoming for spring and Minnesota for fall requires a lighter weight. If I can get 3-4 set up and if they’d last a couple seasons, I’d be happy. I’m retired, so working on barrels is part of the fun. A 40# propane tank was something I’d thought about. Not really into liquid scents, so some kind of a flapper for dry bait is needed. I want to be able to move into a area with all my gear, bait a couple weeks before season and hunt. Lightweight run and fun.
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